OT Sorta New Stadium

[Nashmann]

Metro and the Titans are debating whether to spend $600-$1.2Billion on renovating the 23-year-old Nissan Stadium or just put that money towards building a new state-of-the-art facility. Current Structure concrete new one needs to use steel....

How soon before it is debated for Vandy to play in that new facility as opposed to renovating/replacing the Dud IMO Vandy needs to stay on campus and not play in a 65,000 seat stadium.

[AuricGoldfinger]

Maybe we could get some pieces of Nissan Stadium for cheap when they begin dismantling it...

[Doreknox]

Good idea. For instance, we could buy the chair seats and spray paint them black.

[BrentVU]

Hate to see them dismantle the site of Vandy's Music City Bowl win in 2008!

On the other hand, there were the two losses to UT and one to Ole Miss... ugh.

[AuricGoldfinger]

Hate to see them dismantle the site of Vandy's Music City Bowl win in 2008!

On the other hand, there were the two losses to UT and one to Ole Miss... ugh.

The site deserves a damn historical marker for the 2008 Music City Bowl alone.

[BrentVU]

Hate to see them dismantle the site of Vandy's Music City Bowl win in 2008!

On the other hand, there were the two losses to UT and one to Ole Miss... ugh.

The site deserves a damn historical marker for the 2008 Music City Bowl alone.

Indeed! (Thanks for correcting me on the date.)

[FayetteDore]

Metro and the Titans are debating whether to spend $600-$1.2Billion on renovating the 23-year-old Nissan Stadium or just put that money towards building a new state-of-the-art facility. Current Structure concrete new one needs to use steel....

How soon before it is debated for Vandy to play in that new facility as opposed to renovating/replacing the Dud IMO Vandy needs to stay on campus and not play in a 65,000 seat stadium.

Can someone who knows help me understand why it needs to be steel rather than concrete? Does concrete deteriorate faster? Vanderbilt Stadium appears to be a mixture of concrete with steel supports and it's about 15-18 years older than the Titans stadium.

Genuinely curious. This is one of those obscure topics that are fascinating to me. Or at least interesting.

[cjdore]

I will repeat my argument.....VU can build a state of the art new stadium on campus and when complete can turn current stadium into a parking garage. This could be done for approximately 400-500 Mil. With VU receiving upwards of $54M they could use this bank to pay off stadium and parking garage in less than 10 yrs!!!

[Go Vandy!]

...With VU receiving upwards of $54M they could use this bank to pay off stadium and parking garage in less than 10 yrs!!!

Increasing to $70M once UTx & OU join. Of course, there are other athletic programs that require money, too. But VU has received almost a quarter of a BILLION over the last 5 years, and a third of a BILLION over 10.

[Levon]

Metro and the Titans are debating whether to spend $600-$1.2Billion on renovating the 23-year-old Nissan Stadium or just put that money towards building a new state-of-the-art facility. Current Structure concrete new one needs to use steel....

How soon before it is debated for Vandy to play in that new facility as opposed to renovating/replacing the Dud IMO Vandy needs to stay on campus and not play in a 65,000 seat stadium.

Can someone who knows help me understand why it needs to be steel rather than concretel? Does concrete deteriorate faster?

Genuinely curious. This is one of those obscure topics that are fascinating to me. Or at least interesting.

Yes. I was wondering the same thing.

[charlestonalum]

...With VU receiving upwards of $54M they could use this bank to pay off stadium and parking garage in less than 10 yrs!!!

Increasing to $70M once UTx & OU join. Of course, there are other athletic programs that require money, too. But VU has received almost a quarter of a BILLION over the last 5 years, and a third of a BILLION over 10.

and we have spent every penny - easy come and easy go

[VandyfanKY]

Most stadiums are a combination of steel and concrete, although FAU used aluminum rather than steel.

Concrete is strongest when in compression (foundation, sidewalk, etc.) That is, it can hold a heavy static load without failing. When in tension (pulled from each end) it breaks apart.

Steel, by contrast, is excellent in tension, so bridges are built with steel, not concrete. However, when supporting a compressive load steel can bend and may not recover to its original shape. Also, steel is subject to corrosion and may fail at a weak joint if not coated or painted regularly.

The classic design solution is to use steel reinforcement bars encased in concrete. The key here is to protect the steel from moisture and rusting (corrosion). Once corroded, the steel rebar expands, forcing the concrete into tension, cracking, and ultimately failure.

The Titans may want a stadium with more cantilevered decks, which involve more pure steel trusses, but I suspect the structure will still have a lot of concrete. BTW, Vanderbilt's stadium appears to have been very well maintained through the years and can last for decades longer in terms of materials.

[FayetteDore]

BOOM! There it is.

Thank you VandyfanKY!
Exactly what I was looking for.