Some Tyrin news
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:17 pm
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Quality of education does not appear to be a current top priority for Mr. Lawrence. Would absolutely stink if he ended up at any of the first three schools.AuricGoldfinger wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:19 pm And some more:
Tyrin Lawrence and Olivier Nkamhoua particularly piqued college coaches’ interest this weekend because they’re also in the NCAA transfer portal. Lawrence played well in his first game as a slashing guard capable of knocking down perimeter shots, but struggled when given more on-ball opportunities on Sunday.
“I try to tell [college coaches] I’m going to try to focus on the draft first and then school second, so trying to keep them at bay while focusing on what I really want to do, which is the draft,” Lawrence says. “For me to stay in, I would need some type of guarantee [from an NBA team], I don’t just want to go out on hope. So hopefully I can get that, but if not, I wouldn’t mind going back to school.”
Lawrence listed Auburn (where he has visited), Georgia, Kentucky, Miami, Memphis and Texas as some of the schools in hottest pursuit, with a return to Vanderbilt also on the table.
https://www.si.com/nba/2023/05/15/g-lea ... -takeaways
There would not have been an NIL back then. Yes, $50 handshakes, but NIL would have been taboo.
We want the loyalty, but the school didn't pay any of the player's for their video game income, jersey sales, and a whole host of other things for decades! The schools were warned over and over for so long, and conferences just kept padding pockets while not including the players. Yes they got an education, and I like most thought for so long that was plenty, but it wasn't close to equal sharing. I'd love to play NCAA sports video games with the players names and abilities again, but now we understand the difference of they never shared those dollars with the actual players. Hiding behind amateurism while the conferences, schools, and NCAA shared billions was a terrible joke!alathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 5:56 am Loyalty's great when it runs both ways. But when coaches can run off players as soon as they find someone they think is better, it's hard to blame the players for moving on when they find a better deal.
And I'm not sure you can say "free education." Legit SEC athletes have rare talent, they work their butts off, and they generate economic value for the league and the schools well beyond the cost of their education.
Look, I don't like it either. But college sports has been a ruthless big business as long as we've all been watching. We're not upset that it's become a ruthless big business. We liked it when it was a ruthless big business and the players were indentured. Now we're upset because the players have the power to be as ruthless as everyone else in the business. It's not as if this is some new era of wickedness. We were fine with the wickedness when we had more control over the players.
Also, we're very quick to deplore Lawrence leaving. But I don't seem to remember anyone throwing up their arms when Chatman, Robbins, or Manjon transferred in. Or anyone saying we don't want that big man from Michigan to come to Vanderbilt because it's such a travesty. By your standards, the transfers in are just as morally degenerate as Lawrence is for transferring out.
1) i am sure that there are that there are coaches that "run" players off. The ones i follow usually have the " talk" at season's end, which a coach would be upfront about the players' future playing time (Trey Thomas) That's my impression of CJS. And technically, the scholarships are renewable on a annual basisalathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 5:56 am Loyalty's great when it runs both ways. But when coaches can run off players as soon as they find someone they think is better, it's hard to blame the players for moving on when they find a better deal.
And I'm not sure you can say "free education." Legit SEC athletes have rare talent, they work their butts off, and they generate economic value for the league and the schools well beyond the cost of their education.
Look, I don't like it either. But college sports has been a ruthless big business as long as we've all been watching. We're not upset that it's become a ruthless big business. We liked it when it was a ruthless big business and the players were indentured. Now we're upset because the players have the power to be as ruthless as everyone else in the business. It's not as if this is some new era of wickedness. We were fine with the wickedness when we had more control over the players.
Also, we're very quick to deplore Lawrence leaving. But I don't seem to remember anyone throwing up their arms when Chatman, Robbins, or Manjon transferred in. Or anyone saying we don't want that big man from Michigan to come to Vanderbilt because it's such a travesty. By your standards, the transfers in are just as morally degenerate as Lawrence is for transferring out.
Both of these posts nail it.ymtn64 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 11:56 amWe want the loyalty, but the school didn't pay any of the player's for their video game income, jersey sales, and a whole host of other things for decades! The schools were warned over and over for so long, and conferences just kept padding pockets while not including the players. Yes they got an education, and I like most thought for so long that was plenty, but it wasn't close to equal sharing. I'd love to play NCAA sports video games with the players names and abilities again, but now we understand the difference of they never shared those dollars with the actual players. Hiding behind amateurism while the conferences, schools, and NCAA shared billions was a terrible joke!alathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 5:56 am Loyalty's great when it runs both ways. But when coaches can run off players as soon as they find someone they think is better, it's hard to blame the players for moving on when they find a better deal.
And I'm not sure you can say "free education." Legit SEC athletes have rare talent, they work their butts off, and they generate economic value for the league and the schools well beyond the cost of their education.
Look, I don't like it either. But college sports has been a ruthless big business as long as we've all been watching. We're not upset that it's become a ruthless big business. We liked it when it was a ruthless big business and the players were indentured. Now we're upset because the players have the power to be as ruthless as everyone else in the business. It's not as if this is some new era of wickedness. We were fine with the wickedness when we had more control over the players.
Also, we're very quick to deplore Lawrence leaving. But I don't seem to remember anyone throwing up their arms when Chatman, Robbins, or Manjon transferred in. Or anyone saying we don't want that big man from Michigan to come to Vanderbilt because it's such a travesty. By your standards, the transfers in are just as morally degenerate as Lawrence is for transferring out.
Oh, did the schools make money off the video games?ymtn64 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 11:56 amWe want the loyalty, but the school didn't pay any of the player's for their video game income, jersey sales, and a whole host of other things for decades! The schools were warned over and over for so long, and conferences just kept padding pockets while not including the players. Yes they got an education, and I like most thought for so long that was plenty, but it wasn't close to equal sharing. I'd love to play NCAA sports video games with the players names and abilities again, but now we understand the difference of they never shared those dollars with the actual players. Hiding behind amateurism while the conferences, schools, and NCAA shared billions was a terrible joke!alathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 5:56 am Loyalty's great when it runs both ways. But when coaches can run off players as soon as they find someone they think is better, it's hard to blame the players for moving on when they find a better deal.
And I'm not sure you can say "free education." Legit SEC athletes have rare talent, they work their butts off, and they generate economic value for the league and the schools well beyond the cost of their education.
Look, I don't like it either. But college sports has been a ruthless big business as long as we've all been watching. We're not upset that it's become a ruthless big business. We liked it when it was a ruthless big business and the players were indentured. Now we're upset because the players have the power to be as ruthless as everyone else in the business. It's not as if this is some new era of wickedness. We were fine with the wickedness when we had more control over the players.
Also, we're very quick to deplore Lawrence leaving. But I don't seem to remember anyone throwing up their arms when Chatman, Robbins, or Manjon transferred in. Or anyone saying we don't want that big man from Michigan to come to Vanderbilt because it's such a travesty. By your standards, the transfers in are just as morally degenerate as Lawrence is for transferring out.
The point i was trying to make is pay-for-play is nothing new. The NCAA has made billions off players for decades, & it was illegal to give a student-athlete a ride across campus (i think) in this century.alathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:03 am$50 handshakes? $100?
I went to VU in the 80's and what I was hearing from other schools was more like cars and brown paper bags full of cash.
They didn't get the direct checks. The money went to the NCAA who distributes money to schools. Players, as part of their national letter of intent, agreed to sign away their marketing rights to the NCAA (at least how it used to work). They were all in on it to have the player sign away their NIL rights and then make money off of them.commadore wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:09 pmOh, did the schools make money off the video games?ymtn64 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 11:56 amWe want the loyalty, but the school didn't pay any of the player's for their video game income, jersey sales, and a whole host of other things for decades! The schools were warned over and over for so long, and conferences just kept padding pockets while not including the players. Yes they got an education, and I like most thought for so long that was plenty, but it wasn't close to equal sharing. I'd love to play NCAA sports video games with the players names and abilities again, but now we understand the difference of they never shared those dollars with the actual players. Hiding behind amateurism while the conferences, schools, and NCAA shared billions was a terrible joke!alathIN wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 5:56 am Loyalty's great when it runs both ways. But when coaches can run off players as soon as they find someone they think is better, it's hard to blame the players for moving on when they find a better deal.
And I'm not sure you can say "free education." Legit SEC athletes have rare talent, they work their butts off, and they generate economic value for the league and the schools well beyond the cost of their education.
Look, I don't like it either. But college sports has been a ruthless big business as long as we've all been watching. We're not upset that it's become a ruthless big business. We liked it when it was a ruthless big business and the players were indentured. Now we're upset because the players have the power to be as ruthless as everyone else in the business. It's not as if this is some new era of wickedness. We were fine with the wickedness when we had more control over the players.
Also, we're very quick to deplore Lawrence leaving. But I don't seem to remember anyone throwing up their arms when Chatman, Robbins, or Manjon transferred in. Or anyone saying we don't want that big man from Michigan to come to Vanderbilt because it's such a travesty. By your standards, the transfers in are just as morally degenerate as Lawrence is for transferring out.