Riley Neal working out with Cleveland Browns
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:07 pm
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I totally concur with this. 2019 was the year Derek Mason promoted Gerry Gdowski into the OC role, and without going into too much detail, the Peter Principle applied. At the end of the season, Mason was forced to fire Gdowski (the relationship went back many years) in order to keep his job.alathIN wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 8:39 am My guess is that his one really bad year was attributable 20% Neal himself, 20% O-line, 60% coaching/scheme.
With a decent game-manager QB with good legs, plus Vaughan, Lipscomb, and Pinckney, and an effective scheme and play calling, we should have had at least a competent mid-tier SEC offense. There's no excuse for that group being one of the worst offenses in college football.
That is astonishing.Seadog73 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:20 pm There was a comment elsewhere that the CCL staff spent much of the spring working with the QB's on footwork. And the report went on to say the "previous staff" had not done any footwork drills with the QB's. And THAT is part of the reason all 3 QB's looked at least decent during the Spring Game. Supposedly.
That's so astonishing that I would venture a guess that its probably not even true. You literally can't practice in football without practicing footwork. Now to be fair, there are varying degrees of that, but I'm sure they worked on it. But maybe CCL and crew are better, more efficient, more thorough, spend more time, etc.alathIN wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:09 pmThat is astonishing.Seadog73 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:20 pm There was a comment elsewhere that the CCL staff spent much of the spring working with the QB's on footwork. And the report went on to say the "previous staff" had not done any footwork drills with the QB's. And THAT is part of the reason all 3 QB's looked at least decent during the Spring Game. Supposedly.
It's hard to believe Ludwig would not have recognized the importance of footwork - maybe it got dropped in the transition? Of course he's not the previous staff, but the previous to the previous to the previous staff.
It would explain why Kyle Shurmur was successful - he's been extremely well coached since he was a toddler and would certainly have come in to the program with good footwork.
It would also go a long way to explaining why QB prospects who should have been at least semi-decent - like Walters and Wallace - turned out to be busts.
"Attention to detail" does in retrospect seem to have been a shortcoming of the previous regime.
I think xCDM was really good at his relationships with the players and he certainly inspired them on the emotional level. And maybe there was relative success in the Ludwig years because he brought some attention to detail - that does seem like his personality.
No head coach is perfect in every way - everyone has shortcomings - but my guess is that the most successful coaches are the ones that know where their shortcomings are and specifically look for assistants who are strong in those areas.
I had a bad feeling when CDM said that he and Jason Tarver thought exactly the same and "completed each others' sentences." That's not what you need in your immediate subordinate. "He thinks of things I don't think of" would have been much more promising.
From early impressions I do think CCL has strong attention to detail, and self-awareness to know what kinds of personalities he needs to complement his own and fill in the gaps.
Perhaps what was missing was any variance from the “run up the middle, run up the middle, pass, punt” game plan.vandy05 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:03 amThat's so astonishing that I would venture a guess that its probably not even true. You literally can't practice in football without practicing footwork. Now to be fair, there are varying degrees of that, but I'm sure they worked on it. But maybe CCL and crew are better, more efficient, more thorough, spend more time, etc.alathIN wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:09 pmThat is astonishing.Seadog73 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:20 pm There was a comment elsewhere that the CCL staff spent much of the spring working with the QB's on footwork. And the report went on to say the "previous staff" had not done any footwork drills with the QB's. And THAT is part of the reason all 3 QB's looked at least decent during the Spring Game. Supposedly.
It's hard to believe Ludwig would not have recognized the importance of footwork - maybe it got dropped in the transition? Of course he's not the previous staff, but the previous to the previous to the previous staff.
It would explain why Kyle Shurmur was successful - he's been extremely well coached since he was a toddler and would certainly have come in to the program with good footwork.
It would also go a long way to explaining why QB prospects who should have been at least semi-decent - like Walters and Wallace - turned out to be busts.
"Attention to detail" does in retrospect seem to have been a shortcoming of the previous regime.
I think xCDM was really good at his relationships with the players and he certainly inspired them on the emotional level. And maybe there was relative success in the Ludwig years because he brought some attention to detail - that does seem like his personality.
No head coach is perfect in every way - everyone has shortcomings - but my guess is that the most successful coaches are the ones that know where their shortcomings are and specifically look for assistants who are strong in those areas.
I had a bad feeling when CDM said that he and Jason Tarver thought exactly the same and "completed each others' sentences." That's not what you need in your immediate subordinate. "He thinks of things I don't think of" would have been much more promising.
From early impressions I do think CCL has strong attention to detail, and self-awareness to know what kinds of personalities he needs to complement his own and fill in the gaps.
Now from a scheme perspective, I think there is no getting around the idea that something was missing and that really hurt Neal.