Pitching question
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Pitching question
With injuries to #1 and #2 starters, would we be better off quickly exiting the SEC tournament? And hope to get at least one back for the NCAA regional? Maybe rest the bullpen to get a serviceable bullpen game ready for the regional?
This would be a solid choice for Omaha if the rotation were intact.
This would be a solid choice for Omaha if the rotation were intact.
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This is a hard one.
I believe, having gone 19-11 in the toughest division in college baseball, and getting a bye/4th seed in the conference tournament, we are assured of a national seed. However, we did swoon over the last month, and some experts dropped us pretty mercilessly - without even acknowledging our good explanation: losing starting pitchers who are expected back.
I definitely don’t want to wear out our staff in Hoover. At the same time, getting run ruled twice might result in losing the top-8 seed.
My thought would be this: if Owen is healthy, throw him four innings with Reilly behind him. If we have to start a non-weekend starter in game two, I’d throw Bryce Cunningham with Horn behind him. Ginther did well as a starter, but he’s so valuable as a setup man - I wouldn’t want to over throw him.
I think it would be advisable for us to win a game. Not urgent, but advisable. We would be better off not playing five games with our staff banged up. But a national seed is nothing to trifle with. Finally, if Owen is ok, giving him a few innings will be useful. So would throwing Horn or Cunningham as a starter - to help them get their sea legs. I also think it would help Reilly to come in from the pen where he excels after a few rough starts. So, we should focus on staying/getting sharp and stay on strict pitch counts.
Futrell threw over a 100 pitches on Friday. I wouldn’t mind either giving him a week off, or keeping him to 50 pitches if there is a game 3. Another bright note, Hlibocki seems to be rounding into form at just the right time. I would not be surprised to see him start game 3 if we rest Futrell.
You can win a Super-Regional with 2 sharp starters. If Holton gets another few weeks off - hopefully he’ll be able to contribute too. I like our staff - but at this time of year, guys who are not throwing strikes are a liability. If we get back Owen, and he is sharp, I am optimistic.
I believe, having gone 19-11 in the toughest division in college baseball, and getting a bye/4th seed in the conference tournament, we are assured of a national seed. However, we did swoon over the last month, and some experts dropped us pretty mercilessly - without even acknowledging our good explanation: losing starting pitchers who are expected back.
I definitely don’t want to wear out our staff in Hoover. At the same time, getting run ruled twice might result in losing the top-8 seed.
My thought would be this: if Owen is healthy, throw him four innings with Reilly behind him. If we have to start a non-weekend starter in game two, I’d throw Bryce Cunningham with Horn behind him. Ginther did well as a starter, but he’s so valuable as a setup man - I wouldn’t want to over throw him.
I think it would be advisable for us to win a game. Not urgent, but advisable. We would be better off not playing five games with our staff banged up. But a national seed is nothing to trifle with. Finally, if Owen is ok, giving him a few innings will be useful. So would throwing Horn or Cunningham as a starter - to help them get their sea legs. I also think it would help Reilly to come in from the pen where he excels after a few rough starts. So, we should focus on staying/getting sharp and stay on strict pitch counts.
Futrell threw over a 100 pitches on Friday. I wouldn’t mind either giving him a week off, or keeping him to 50 pitches if there is a game 3. Another bright note, Hlibocki seems to be rounding into form at just the right time. I would not be surprised to see him start game 3 if we rest Futrell.
You can win a Super-Regional with 2 sharp starters. If Holton gets another few weeks off - hopefully he’ll be able to contribute too. I like our staff - but at this time of year, guys who are not throwing strikes are a liability. If we get back Owen, and he is sharp, I am optimistic.
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Re: Pitching question
How certain are you of the "expected back" part?roanoke wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:40 am This is a hard one.
I believe, having gone 19-11 in the toughest division in college baseball, and getting a bye/4th seed in the conference tournament, we are assured of a national seed. However, we did swoon over the last month, and some experts dropped us pretty mercilessly - without even acknowledging our good explanation: losing starting pitchers who are expected back.
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We are in double elimination with #4 and that means at least 2 games. Always good to sharpen the comoetitive edge so hope to win while working on things to fine tune before NCAA is in order, but keeping pitch count down.
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Coach was quoted as saying Owen could pitch at Hoover and is close to coming back.geeznotagain wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 12:32 pmHow certain are you of the "expected back" part?roanoke wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:40 am This is a hard one.
I believe, having gone 19-11 in the toughest division in college baseball, and getting a bye/4th seed in the conference tournament, we are assured of a national seed. However, we did swoon over the last month, and some experts dropped us pretty mercilessly - without even acknowledging our good explanation: losing starting pitchers who are expected back.
He also said Holton would not pitch at Hoover.
But he isn’t “shut down “ and it’s three weeks to a super-regional…. so I guess I’m saying “there’s a chance…”
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If unproven arms are gonna have to pitch meaningful stressful games down the stretch for this team I think it would benefit said arms to pitch as much In Hoover as possible. I don’t think 0-2 helps with development of a guy like horn or whoever.
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You knew this was going to end up in the thread....roanoke wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 12:48 pmCoach was quoted as saying Owen could pitch at Hoover and is close to coming back.geeznotagain wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 12:32 pmHow certain are you of the "expected back" part?roanoke wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 11:40 am This is a hard one.
I believe, having gone 19-11 in the toughest division in college baseball, and getting a bye/4th seed in the conference tournament, we are assured of a national seed. However, we did swoon over the last month, and some experts dropped us pretty mercilessly - without even acknowledging our good explanation: losing starting pitchers who are expected back.
He also said Holton would not pitch at Hoover.
But he isn’t “shut down “ and it’s three weeks to a super-regional…. so I guess I’m saying “there’s a chance…”

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I personally think that if VU goes two and barbecue in Hoover, it won't affect our chances of being a national seed one bit. I don't think conference tournament performance hurts a team. It can help a bubble squad but otherwise won't hurt a team like Vandy with a strong resume.
That being said, the only thing that would bother me about Hoover would be two uncompetitive contests. We've shown a dangerous propensity to get way down early in games.
That being said, the only thing that would bother me about Hoover would be two uncompetitive contests. We've shown a dangerous propensity to get way down early in games.
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It seems I recall USC or LSU taking the “rest normal starter pitchers” approach in the SEC tourney to prepare for the NCAAs