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Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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Clarke, Franklin, Paul, King Gobillot have signed, Gillis, Scott, Bleday, Fellows, Demarco, Raby, Infante and DuVall will soon.

Hoping Duvy stays and Demaco


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Source? You have 19 posts and expect us to think you know all? Only Clarke and Paul show on draft tracker.
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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First post, poster is tracking correctly, Commadore relax and watch a couple of Rockers’ last two or three outings🙂
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Maybe so, I'd still like a source and NEITHER of you have offered one.
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Franklin, Gobillot, and Clarke have all stated on their Twitter accounts they've signed. The draft signings trackers are basically crap this year.
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Re Signings

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I don’t care who signs. Nothing I can do about it.
They all helped us to a championship—even Gobillot in some ways—and deserve whatever they can get. If DeMarco and Duvall spend another season in Black and Gold, that’s great too.
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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Scott signed with the RedSox..Infante to Marlins as I said would happen
... you want proof? so the only ones left are Bleday, Fellows, Duval , Gillis, Raby, and Demarco
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Versus75 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:37 am
quiesedba wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:57 pm Clarke, Franklin, Paul, King Gobillot have signed, Gillis, Scott, Bleday, Fellows, Demarco, Raby, Infante and DuVall will soon.

Hoping Duvy stays and Demaco


Spelling aside, if he knows so much and knows that they WILL sign, why HOPE they will stay?
Watch and see , I wish they would stay but I have been told they will sign.....
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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Since the OP is too important or whatever to share sources, here's A.J. Franklin's tweet about signing with the Royals:

[tweet][/tweet]
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What is happening?
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Good2BGold wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:47 am Since the OP is too important or whatever to share sources, here's A.J. Franklin's tweet about signing with the Royals:

[tweet][/tweet]
Thanks. They are all showing up on draft tracker now. Still, neither the Yankees site nor draft tracker shows DeMarco signing.
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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While I agree with the premise that we need to vet new posters somewhat as they are often fans of other teams in disguise (or the umpteenth incarnation of some banned poster), there is nothing here to indicate our new friend is a troll. He may well have inside info. So let’s chill out y’all.

I don’t see anything wrong with hoping Pat D stays as he’s only a sophomore. I really think he goes a whole lot higher if he stays, though I suppose he may really want to be a Yankee. In his case being drafted as a junior vs sophomore won’t cost him money, so he should bet on himself IMO.

Duvy has a tough business decision to make. Will he go enough higher in the draft to offset the senior class discount we’re seeing?
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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oakparkDore wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:40 pm

I don’t see anything wrong with hoping Pat D stays as he’s only a sophomore. I really think he goes a whole lot higher if he stays, though I suppose he may really want to be a Yankee. In his case being drafted as a junior vs sophomore won’t cost him money, so he should bet on himself IMO.
I agree with this. I understand the junior vs. senior distinction, the senior has virtually no leverage. But I am surprised when a player with 2 years of college credits elects to forego the 3rd, unless he's a high draft choice. I guess the potential for injury is a factor, as is the possibility of tanking in playing year #3.
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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quiesedba wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:52 am wow .... all I can say.... I post what I know is fact and you want me to give you some kind of proof? I dont owe you any proof .. choose to beleive or not to, I really dont care. The fact is I have forgetten more about baseball, the draft, and this team than you will probably even know. And I have read your posts. Read all my "19 posts" and give me one example of where I have been incorrect ? Let me say I hope Demarco and Duvy will stay , but its my highly informed opinion they will sign. Also I am in no way begrudging these players but celebrating them and happy for them . You know what kind ...............................................................
Thanks for the updates!!! Until you’ve been proven wrong, I see no reason to doubt you....keep posting! AD* AD*
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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geeznotagain wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:55 pm
oakparkDore wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:40 pm

I don’t see anything wrong with hoping Pat D stays as he’s only a sophomore. I really think he goes a whole lot higher if he stays, though I suppose he may really want to be a Yankee. In his case being drafted as a junior vs sophomore won’t cost him money, so he should bet on himself IMO.

I agree with this. I understand the junior vs. senior distinction, the senior has virtually no leverage. But I am surprised when a player with 2 years of college credits elects to forego the 3rd, unless he's a high draft choice. I guess the potential for injury is a factor, as is the possibility of tanking in playing year #3.
I mostly get the distinction but isn’t there kind of a “hangman’s paradox” thing going on? Like does it really give you leverage if you’re a sophomore and get drafted saying you can go back to school another year, then as a junior you get drafted but if you go back to school again you’ll just be a senior who gets drafted and has no leverage. So aren’t you basically the senior with no leverage even as a sophomore?

Not sure if that makes any sense...
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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lidore12 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:10 pm
geeznotagain wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:55 pm
oakparkDore wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:40 pm

I don’t see anything wrong with hoping Pat D stays as he’s only a sophomore. I really think he goes a whole lot higher if he stays, though I suppose he may really want to be a Yankee. In his case being drafted as a junior vs sophomore won’t cost him money, so he should bet on himself IMO.

I agree with this. I understand the junior vs. senior distinction, the senior has virtually no leverage. But I am surprised when a player with 2 years of college credits elects to forego the 3rd, unless he's a high draft choice. I guess the potential for injury is a factor, as is the possibility of tanking in playing year #3.
I mostly get the distinction but isn’t there kind of a “hangman’s paradox” thing going on? Like does it really give you leverage if you’re a sophomore and get drafted saying you can go back to school another year, then as a junior you get drafted but if you go back to school again you’ll just be a senior who gets drafted and has no leverage. So aren’t you basically the senior with no leverage even as a sophomore?

Not sure if that makes any sense...
No, you aren't basically a senior with no leverage as a sophomore because as a sophomore and as junior, you still have leverage. That's why Joe Gobillot, a 21-year-old draft-eligible redshirt freshman who made two appearances in 2019 for a total of two innings, got $222.5K ($97K over slot value) and Paul got $57.5K and Scott got $50K. Gobillot had leverage and Paul and Scott didn't. Philip Clarke had two years of leverage, and that's why Toronto was willing to pay almost $350K over slot value — he got $500K. We saw what an extra year did for JJ in terms of his draft value, so the Blue Jays got Clarke cheap, in my opinion, and I'm guessing in theirs as well. Had he opted to return for his junior season, I don't think there is any question he would have continued to improve both as a hitter and behind the plate, and might have played himself into the first round in 2020.
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Re: Franklin TO the Royals King to the Marlins

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Good2BGold wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:43 pm
lidore12 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:10 pm
geeznotagain wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:55 pm


I agree with this. I understand the junior vs. senior distinction, the senior has virtually no leverage. But I am surprised when a player with 2 years of college credits elects to forego the 3rd, unless he's a high draft choice. I guess the potential for injury is a factor, as is the possibility of tanking in playing year #3.
I mostly get the distinction but isn’t there kind of a “hangman’s paradox” thing going on? Like does it really give you leverage if you’re a sophomore and get drafted saying you can go back to school another year, then as a junior you get drafted but if you go back to school again you’ll just be a senior who gets drafted and has no leverage. So aren’t you basically the senior with no leverage even as a sophomore?

Not sure if that makes any sense...
No, you aren't basically a senior with no leverage as a sophomore because as a sophomore and as junior, you still have leverage. That's why Joe Gobillot, a 21-year-old draft-eligible redshirt freshman who made two appearances in 2019 for a total of two innings, got $222.5K ($97K over slot value) and Paul got $57.5K and Scott got $50K. Gobillot had leverage and Paul and Scott didn't. Philip Clarke had two years of leverage, and that's why Toronto was willing to pay almost $350K over slot value — he got $500K. We saw what an extra year did for JJ in terms of his draft value, so the Blue Jays got Clarke cheap, in my opinion, and I'm guessing in theirs as well. Had he opted to return for his junior season, I don't think there is any question he would have continued to improve both as a hitter and behind the plate, and might have played himself into the first round in 2020.
So is it just something to the effect of “I have value that hasn’t been revealed yet” so you’re getting a discount on me in say the 8th round rather than the 3rd round if I were to go back to school and make good on that value.

I guess what I was trying to say is if your choices as a junior are sign the contract or go back to school and be a Senior with no leverage, then you already have no leverage and the choice is illusory.
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A player will, in most all cases, become the same pro player whether he leaves after his junior year or senior year. The leverage is in the fact the player has already shown his potential as a junior (or sophomore) or even as a high schooler and this may be the only opportunity for the pro team who drafts him to get him into their system. If he says no, a different team may draft him the following year.
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"AJ Franklin turns pro"

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Local story on AJ from The Wilson Post:

AJ Franklin turns pro
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