Stute into the portal
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He needed to get a jump start to secure a spot on the Sun Belt team that he chooses?Foreverhopeful wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:26 am I will miss him, but don't understand leaving now. He is letting his teammates down- we need the bodies. Something must have happened. He doesn't mention Stackhouse in his farewell message. I think he got frustrated and probably had a blowup. I loved his attitude and toughness. He's a good kid and I understand the frustration this year, but I don't understand skipping out before the NIT.
I don't understand announcing the morning of a game, either. I suppose he has his reasons. I think it's probably best for both parties involved, to be honest.
I wish him the best, hope it works out for him. Thankful for his 3 years of contributions, wish it wasn't such a struggle for him this year, and hope a fresh start somewhere else irons things out for him.
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Dittodallasdore wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:46 pmHe needed to get a jump start to secure a spot on the Sun Belt team that he chooses?Foreverhopeful wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:26 am I will miss him, but don't understand leaving now. He is letting his teammates down- we need the bodies. Something must have happened. He doesn't mention Stackhouse in his farewell message. I think he got frustrated and probably had a blowup. I loved his attitude and toughness. He's a good kid and I understand the frustration this year, but I don't understand skipping out before the NIT.
I don't understand announcing the morning of a game, either. I suppose he has his reasons. I think it's probably best for both parties involved, to be honest.
I wish him the best, hope it works out for him. Thankful for his 3 years of contributions, wish it wasn't such a struggle for him this year, and hope a fresh start somewhere else irons things out for him.
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Does not finishing a season with one team reflect poorly when trying to get offered to another team? Would this not be like walking out on a job without a standard two weeks notice? Something tells me the staff didn’t know about his desire to transfer a couple weeks ago. I find it hard for him to receive playing time had they known he was going to bail.OldDude wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:52 pmDittodallasdore wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:46 pmHe needed to get a jump start to secure a spot on the Sun Belt team that he chooses?Foreverhopeful wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:26 am I will miss him, but don't understand leaving now. He is letting his teammates down- we need the bodies. Something must have happened. He doesn't mention Stackhouse in his farewell message. I think he got frustrated and probably had a blowup. I loved his attitude and toughness. He's a good kid and I understand the frustration this year, but I don't understand skipping out before the NIT.
I don't understand announcing the morning of a game, either. I suppose he has his reasons. I think it's probably best for both parties involved, to be honest.
I wish him the best, hope it works out for him. Thankful for his 3 years of contributions, wish it wasn't such a struggle for him this year, and hope a fresh start somewhere else irons things out for him.
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Do you know who led the team in 3-point percentage?
Liam Robbins among players with 16+ minutes per game.
Colin Smith among players with 50+ 3-point attempts.
Smith ..... 39.2%
Robbins ... 36.5%
Stute ..... 36.1%
Lawrence .. 35.2%
Wright .... 33.3%
Thomas .... 31.1%
from espn.com: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... t/dir/desc
In SEC regular season and tournament games, Myles Stute shot 3-pointers at a 28.3% clip. That included 2 of 17 in the SECT. He was at 47.1% through non-conference games, then the wheels fell off.
However, Stute continued to rebound well and play hard for the 'Dores.
Good luck at your next stop, Myles.
Colin Smith among players with 50+ 3-point attempts.
Smith ..... 39.2%
Robbins ... 36.5%
Stute ..... 36.1%
Lawrence .. 35.2%
Wright .... 33.3%
Thomas .... 31.1%
from espn.com: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... t/dir/desc
In SEC regular season and tournament games, Myles Stute shot 3-pointers at a 28.3% clip. That included 2 of 17 in the SECT. He was at 47.1% through non-conference games, then the wheels fell off.
However, Stute continued to rebound well and play hard for the 'Dores.
Good luck at your next stop, Myles.
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Portal is a real curse for players. The facts show that with exception of those top level players it is a negative move for most players. His ability to highlight his talents is strange to hear. He kept getting opportunity despite really poor shooting and shot selection.
Hope he earns degree, and finds a great home.
Hope he earns degree, and finds a great home.
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Hard to knock stute. Was always pumped up when he went in as he could blow open a game. Played hard and guarded tasheebdoosh. Hope he gets to a new place and absolutely crushes it and becomes the D and 3 guy he aspires to be at the next level (even if that’s Europe or the G league)
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Not many ways to view this that put him in a good light. Since he's transferring we have to assume he's healthy and able-bodied and this is not over family or health issues. If so, you'd think he'd stay and help the team in whatever capacity possible through the tourney, then announce after the season. But no. On the surface it appears to be an in-CJS-face sulk move. He's became increasingly one-dimensional and shoots 3s at 36% - on par with several guys who'll step in and take his minutes. Time to give someone else a chance. I'm all for him and team being great, but in the last month I didn't like seeing him on the court - his head or his game had checked out. The way he's been shooting lately the team may get a boost in the tourney, especially if he takes any negative vibe out the door with him. Hope I'm wrong and he's the most awesome teammate and person ever, but when something looks, quacks, and swims like a duck it likely is one...
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I would say this is most likely.MrMemorial wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:58 am Since a record 173 guys entered the portal in one day alone...an all time record...maybe his timing was motivated by a beat the rush strategy because the flood of names will continue for a while. There are lots of schools that won't have a Colin Smith level forward ready to take his minutes.
It's just the way the game is played these days. He didn't quit on our team any more than the myriad football players who skip mid-tier bowl games to reduce the risk of injury prior to the NFL draft (something which I personally hate, but is pretty commonplace these days)
The NIT a fun extension of the season ... but putting his name in earlier means he gets to talk to coaches sooner, before they fill their transfer slots with other guys.
Gotta do what you gotta do.
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To be fair, there was what ... 47 hours between the end of the season and when this game starts? It's not like he really had a chance to do it much earlier...Obvious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:53 pmDoes not finishing a season with one team reflect poorly when trying to get offered to another team? Would this not be like walking out on a job without a standard two weeks notice? Something tells me the staff didn’t know about his desire to transfer a couple weeks ago. I find it hard for him to receive playing time had they known he was going to bail.OldDude wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:52 pmDittodallasdore wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:46 pm
He needed to get a jump start to secure a spot on the Sun Belt team that he chooses?
I don't understand announcing the morning of a game, either. I suppose he has his reasons. I think it's probably best for both parties involved, to be honest.
I wish him the best, hope it works out for him. Thankful for his 3 years of contributions, wish it wasn't such a struggle for him this year, and hope a fresh start somewhere else irons things out for him.
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I don’t think the season ended.mathguy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:47 pmTo be fair, there was what ... 47 hours between the end of the season and when this game starts? It's not like he really had a chance to do it much earlier...Obvious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:53 pmDoes not finishing a season with one team reflect poorly when trying to get offered to another team? Would this not be like walking out on a job without a standard two weeks notice? Something tells me the staff didn’t know about his desire to transfer a couple weeks ago. I find it hard for him to receive playing time had they known he was going to bail.
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So what’s the wisdom, if any, behind setting that date to open the portal? Why not the day after the NCAA tournament ends? (I just couldn’t put “NCAA” and “wisdom” in the same sentence)
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Math guy wrote:
“‘It's just the way the game is played these days. He didn't quit on our team any more than the myriad football players who skip mid-tier bowl games to reduce the risk of injury prior to the NFL draft”
I have to disagree with this thought. The football players give up their last game of eligibility to play in a bowl game that basically has no meaning, other than some hardware for competing. In this situation, Stute has 2 more years of playing eligibility and, I dare say, his teammates are approaching this tournament much differently than players in a bowl game!
It’s quite possible Stack interviewed each player as to their intentions for next year and Stute informed him he was leaving. If this is how it played out, I have no problem with it. I believe we have a better chance in the tourney without him, as his body language displayed his lack of interest when he wasn’t on the floor. I honestly think Ansong can fill his role without us skipping a beat and plays with with much more enthusiasm. Teammates pick up on who’s in and who’s not which has a huge effect on the culture and attitude of the whole team and creates an atmosphere of togetherness.
“‘It's just the way the game is played these days. He didn't quit on our team any more than the myriad football players who skip mid-tier bowl games to reduce the risk of injury prior to the NFL draft”
I have to disagree with this thought. The football players give up their last game of eligibility to play in a bowl game that basically has no meaning, other than some hardware for competing. In this situation, Stute has 2 more years of playing eligibility and, I dare say, his teammates are approaching this tournament much differently than players in a bowl game!
It’s quite possible Stack interviewed each player as to their intentions for next year and Stute informed him he was leaving. If this is how it played out, I have no problem with it. I believe we have a better chance in the tourney without him, as his body language displayed his lack of interest when he wasn’t on the floor. I honestly think Ansong can fill his role without us skipping a beat and plays with with much more enthusiasm. Teammates pick up on who’s in and who’s not which has a huge effect on the culture and attitude of the whole team and creates an atmosphere of togetherness.
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Pardon me. The regular season.Obvious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:58 pmI don’t think the season ended.mathguy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:47 pmTo be fair, there was what ... 47 hours between the end of the season and when this game starts? It's not like he really had a chance to do it much earlier...Obvious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:53 pm
Does not finishing a season with one team reflect poorly when trying to get offered to another team? Would this not be like walking out on a job without a standard two weeks notice? Something tells me the staff didn’t know about his desire to transfer a couple weeks ago. I find it hard for him to receive playing time had they known he was going to bail.
But surely if we made the NCAAs he would've stayed with the team through our tournament run.
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That’s what I’m saying…
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It is different in the sense that Stute does have more eligibility instead of just passing out of one game.Ndorefin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:41 pm Math guy wrote:
“‘It's just the way the game is played these days. He didn't quit on our team any more than the myriad football players who skip mid-tier bowl games to reduce the risk of injury prior to the NFL draft”
I have to disagree with this thought. The football players give up their last game of eligibility to play in a bowl game that basically has no meaning, other than some hardware for competing. In this situation, Stute has 2 more years of playing eligibility and, I dare say, his teammates are approaching this tournament much differently than players in a bowl game!
It’s quite possible Stack interviewed each player as to their intentions for next year and Stute informed him he was leaving. If this is how it played out, I have no problem with it. I believe we have a better chance in the tourney without him, as his body language displayed his lack of interest when he wasn’t on the floor. I honestly think Ansong can fill his role without us skipping a beat and plays with with much more enthusiasm. Teammates pick up on who’s in and who’s not which has a huge effect on the culture and attitude of the whole team and creates an atmosphere of togetherness.
It is similar in the sense that you just argued a bowl game "basically has no meaning". While I will be happy to root for our guys through the NIT ... let's be honest, the NIT has about the smae meaning as mid-tier bowl game - its a bonus game(s) at the end of the season that cannot end in national championship.
Point being, by leaving a week or three early, Stute can possibly position himself better for a landing, and if Stack knew Stute was going to be leaving anyway, he might have encouraged Stute to leave prior to the NIT for a variety of reasons.
At the end of the day, I'm going to support Stute and wish him the best ... and not start spewing rumors and trashing him here.
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Question asked and answered.
And while we're at it, can we also forbid NCAA football teams from interviewing or hiring new coaches in the month of December? Coaches leaving teams before a bowl game is even more despicable than the players that quit.
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Perhaps Stute and Stackhouse let Stute wager next year's scholarship on a hit or miss from 3. Well, we know how that's gone for the last month. Ok, cheap shot but do wish him well as he did some good things for this program.