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From statistical non-anecdotal facts with links included

17 times more likely to be hospitalized for COVID-19 if unvaccinated
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/po ... 511901001/

What data on 120,000 COVID hospitalizations shows about breakthrough cases
June to September 2021, fully vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID-19 accounted for 15 percent of all U.S. COVID-19 hospitalizations

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p ... cases.html

Dec 15, 2021 — JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. — 91% of COVID-19 hospitalizations unvaccinated against virus
https://www.wjhl.com/local-coronavirus- ... nst-virus/

Since the start of the vaccination program in Canada in December 2020, around 40,788 unvaccinated Canadians have been hospitalized with a COVID-19 infection, compared to 4,099 fully vaccinated Canadians. https://www.statista.com/statistics/125 ... on-status/


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alathIN wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:13 pm Couple things, from a clinician who's been in practice 27 years and treating covid patients from the beginning.
1. I don't see a coherent rationale behind Vanderbilt's student game attendance policy.
2. The health care and health science community has made some missteps, which is totally to be expected because this thing is still very new and changing all the time. But people who think the missteps are a deliberate socialist conspiracy are not worthy of engagement.
3. My ICU is full, busting at the seams. I still have yet to see a single vaccinated patient in the ICU.
4. On case tracking and data collection, the US got behind from the get go and we still haven't caught up. It's hard to make data based decisions when your data sucks.
5. I suspect that Omicron is more contagious but has lower rates of severe disease and death. We'll probably have the data to know for sure next year, about three variants from now. But, people, lower rates of severe disease and death does not mean 0%. People do still die from this. And when the infection rate is way higher, a lower rate of severe disease and death still means full ICUs and plenty of deaths.
6. People who don't work in hospitals have no idea. We're at a higher level of census and acuity that the first surge last year. The US critical health care system is severely strained, closer to breakdown than at any time in the pandemic.
7. Yes, I know. If you don't work in a hospital or happen to have lost a loved one, this bears no relationship to the world you live in - where this whole thing is just a huge annoyance and a topic to squabble about on social media.
8. It's astonishing how much everyone has suddenly acquired high levels of expertise in medicine and epidemiology. It would never occur to me to tell an electrician with training and certification and 27 years of experience that I know more about wiring than they do. But wow, all of the sudden, out of the blue, I am running into middle management people in the oil business, and an upholstery guy, and a guy who works at the auto parts store, and a retired legal secretary, and they all know more about immunology and public health and infectious disease than I do.
While you have not experienced a post vaccine case of Covid....I have. My Daughter in law is completing her residency in Trauma/ER medicine out in Cali. Had all required Pfizer shots and still got Covid. And the most ignorantly amazing thing was that she was told to keep reporting to work. Hmmmm
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Just some info on Cookeville Regional as of 1/14/2022: 50 covid hospitalizations, 33 not vaccinated, 17 vaccinated.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/cookeviller ... ter/posts/
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i just heard that the NBA with their near universal vaccination policy have now had 73% of these players proving positive with Covid!!!
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The NBA has 38 players and/or coaches out right now on heath/safety protocol. This includes contact tracing, not all of them are covid positive. That's around 8%. Here is the list per Sporting News....

NBA players in COVID health and safety protocols
Boston Celtics (one player)
Marcus Smart
Charlotte Hornets (two players)
Kelly Oubre
Kai Jones
Chicago Bulls (one player)
Alex Caruso
Dallas Mavericks (one player, head coach)
Jason Kidd
Kristaps Porzingis
Denver Nuggets (one player)
Will Barton
Detroit Pistons (one player)
Frank Jackson
Houston Rockets (one player)
Armoni Brooks
Indiana Pacers (four players)
Justin Anderson
Goga Bitadze
Caris LeVert
TJ Warren
LA Clippers (three players)
Luke Kennard
Justise Winslow
Memphis Grizzlies (one player, head coach)
Steven Adams {played last night, he is out of the protocol}
Taylor Jenkins
Miami Heat (one player)
Markieff Morris
Milwaukee Bucks (two players, head coach)
Grayson Allen
Mike Budenholzer
George Hill
Minnesota Timberwolves (one player)
Leandro Bolmaro
Oklahoma City Thunder (one player, head coach)
Mark Daigneault
Isaiah Roby
Kenrich Williams
Philadelphia 76ers (two players)
Tyrese Maxey
Paul Reed
Phoenix Suns (one player)
Ish Wainright
Portland Trail Blazers (one player)
Norman Powell
Sacramento Kings (two players)
Damian Jones
Robert Woodard II
San Antonio Spurs (two players)
Tre Jones
Derrick White
Utah Jazz (two players)
Jared Butler
Rudy Gay
Rudy Gobert
Elijah Hughes
Washington Wizards (one player)
Bradley Beal
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